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Interpreting Carol Dweck's Motivation Questionairre

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    Posted by: mature_maths_trainee 12/12/2010 at 11:59
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    Hi,

    Sorry if this is a borderline topic for this forum, but I'm applying it in Maths classes and would prefer an answer from mathematically/scientifically-minded people!

    If anyone has used Dweck's Questionairre, and then carefully interpreted the results, I'd really appreciate your help.

     

    I've recently conducted a largish-scale questionairre amongst my students, part of which included Carol Dweck's 3 key questions relating to 'attribution'. [See, for example, Geoff's Petty's description at: http://teacherstoolbox.co.uk/T_Dweck.html ].

    I'm extremely keen to accurately compare my results with other, internationally-acquired data. But I can't find a proper description of how others' have analysed their data. Geoff says that, using the questionairre, students can be broadly classified into three types:

    - Fixed IQ theorists

    - Untapped Potential theorists

    - and ~15% of students 'in the middle'.

     

    Does anyone know exactly how these three borad catagorise are defined? I can then use the same classifications on my own data, and see how my classes / school compares to the norm.

     

    Thanks in anticipation for anyone that can help.

    J

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    Posted by: bgy1mm 12/12/2010 at 13:35
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     The test consists of questions with 6 category based answers 1 meaning 'I agree completely', 6 - 'I disagree completely' and 3-4 in the middle.

    So if you've the raw data you can do chi-squared tests to see whether your sample matches the data collected by Dweck.

    If you have to reduuce the students to 3 categories you have to replicate her data processing step, and the link you gave doesn't give any information on that. Then you can use the chi-squared test again. It's probably better to use the raw data because if you use processed data you assume that the processing step is valid.

    Bascially the whole theory strikes me as therapeutic lying dressed up as science - every biologist knows that variation in human populations is partly genetic and partly environmental, and only some of the environmental difference is in the control of the student. It's almost certainly not true that everyone can do maths to a high level, though it is true that most people can improve thier level of attainment by putting in extra effort. However not all students should be considering mathematics after the compulsory period ends - some should be looking at languages or history or theology, even if they could put in a respectable performance at maths A-level. So a concept of "natural ability" is not entirely destructive.

    However that's by the by.

     

     

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    Posted by: mature_maths_trainee 12/12/2010 at 14:05
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    Thanks - but just to be clear - it's what you call Dweck's 'data processing step' that I want described to me! I've already conducted the questionairre using the same questions and answer format (and conducted in a context that I consider to be 'fair'). The data processing method must be in the academic literature somewhere (otherwise it's not good science!) - but I'm having great difficulty finding it.

    Ordinarily I'd share your concerns, but the fact that Hattie's evidence points to very similar conclusions gives it considerable weight IMO. Hattie's work is, IMO unquestionably, the most scientifically rigorous there is.

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    Posted by: Casy 12/12/2010 at 14:33
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    I agree with you on Hattie's work mature_maths_trainee.

    Thinking I'd like the answer to your question as well I started searching - you are right - no obvious answers.

    I did find this list of papers - don't know whether there are any clues in there! A little reading!

    http://www.stanford.edu/dept/psychology/cdweck

     

     

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    Posted by: bgy1mm 12/12/2010 at 15:18
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    Got it.

     

    I think these are the essential sections

     

    This link should bring up the paper (Theories, attributions and coping).

    http://www.stanford.edu/dept/psychology/cgi-bin/drupalm/system/files/Implicit%20Theories%2C%20Attributions%20and%20Coping.pdf

    The implicit-theories measure described below was used in all the
    studies in the present research.
    Assessment of implicit theories. A three-item questionnaire developed
    by Dweck and Henderson (1988) was used to measure participants' implicit
    theory of intelligence. This measure is similar in format to the one
    used in Chiu, Hong, and Dweck (1997); Chiu, Dweck, Tong, and Fu
    (1997); and Levy, Stroessner, and Dweck (1998; Studies 1-4). The items
    are "You have a certain amount of intelligence and you really can't do
    much to change it"; "Your intelligence is something about you that you
    can't change very much"; and "You can learn new things, but you can't
    really change your basic intelligence." Participants were asked to show
    their degree of agreement with each item on a 6-point Likert scale ranging
    from 1 (strongly agree) to 6 (strongly disagree). Thus, the higher the
    participants' scores, the less they believe that intelligence is a fixed entity.

     

    Recall that participants' implicit theories were measured on a scale that
    ranges from 1 to 6, with higher scores indicating stronger disagreement
    with an entity theory. Those participants who believe that intelligence is
    fixed (entity theorists) should consistently endorse responses at the lower
    (agree) end of the scale (yielding a mean score of 3.0 or lower), whereas
    participants who believe that intelligence is malleable (incremental theorists)
    should consistently endorse responses at the upper (disagree) end of
    the scale (yielding a mean score of 4.0 or above). Those whose average
    score falls between 3.0 and 4.0 have given mixed answers across items and
    are indeterminate (or mixed) in their beliefs about intelligence. In the
    present research, to select participants with unambiguous beliefs about
    intelligence, we eliminated from the analysis those participants who scored
    in the middle (i.e., who had an average score higher than 3.0 and lower
    than 4.0). Participants with average scores lower than or equal to 3.0 were
    classified as entity theorists, whereas those with average scores higher than
    or equal to 4.0 were classified as incremental theorists.

     

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    Posted by: Casy 12/12/2010 at 15:41
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    That link just takes me to a TES page.

    Is this it?

    http://www.stanford.edu/dept/psychology/cgi-bin/drupalm/system/files/Implicit%20Theories%2C%20Attributions%20and%20Coping.pdf

     

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    Posted by: Karvol 12/12/2010 at 16:56
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    mature_maths_trainee:

    Ordinarily I'd share your concerns

     

    You will be doing yourself a big favour by completely ignoring anything bgy1mm writes on any of these fora.

    He is not a teacher of any kind - and certainly has limited understanding of even the basics of mathematics - yet is more than willing to spout off on subjects. Rather like Zelig from the eponymous movie, he will try and meld into the conversation.

    One hopes in vain that he will take the hint and return to whichever part of Leeds he inhabits at this moment in time, but to no avail.

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    Posted by: Betamale 12/12/2010 at 18:24
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    mature_maths_trainee:

    Hi,

    I slimmed the quote down.

    Can I ask:

    What is the motive behind this data collection?

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    Posted by: mature_maths_trainee 12/12/2010 at 21:18
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    Betamale,

     - the purpose of the survey in general was for me to get to know the students' aspirations and beliefs a little better. I had struggled to motivate some of them. I believe it has begun to help me in that regard (I was certainly surprised by some of the answers).

     - the purpose of including Dweck's specific questions was that i) it fitted into the format of my other questions very easily, so was very easy to do ii) (amongst other questions) it helped 'distract' students from the connectedness of the other questions iii) Petty indicates that students identified by Dweck's survey as 'fixed IQ theorists' should be regarded as 'at risk' of under-achieving.

    The reason I conducted quite a large-scale survey was that I was very interested to determine if there were any significant differences in beliefs and attitudes between 'top sets' and 'lower ability sets'. I haven't yet finsihed my analysis of that.

     

    A very peripheral motivation was that I've been encouraged to carry out such surveys as part of my teacher training. I felt this one worthwhile.

     

     

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    Posted by: weebecka 13/12/2010 at 00:27
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    mature_maths_trainee:
    The reason I conducted quite a large-scale survey was that I was very interested to determine if there were any significant differences in beliefs and attitudes between 'top sets' and 'lower ability sets'. I haven't yet finsihed my analysis of that.
     

    I'd be very interested to hear what you find.

    The survey would need to be of a substantial size to eliminate the effect of the individual teacher, which I would expect to be substantial.

    I think you might find that there is a more of a contrast between set 1 and set 2 than between set 1 and a bottom set.  Have you built this possibility in to your study?

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