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    Posted by: seren_dipity 24/12/2010 at 00:21
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    curlygirly:
    am I the only person who reads this as a threat?

    a p155poor threat, but a threat all the same

     

    I was too busy snorting with laughter at being accused of being conservative (small or large 'c') or of propogating right wing dogma or supporting tory views.

    I really, genuinely think that weebecka ought to have spent some time researching this site and its posters before starting to post on here.  She'd have noticed that:

    • it doesn't need facilitating
    • discussions take place and either stick to topic or deviate
    • sometimes there is agreement and sometimes there is heated debate
    • most posters are intelligent
    • most posters are experienced and professional and know what they're talking about
    • most posters are teachers
    • some posters are right wing
    • some posters are left wing
    • some posters are extreme in their views (mostly nutters whose usernames change often)
    • there is a great deal of valuable, thoughtful and useful advice given by highly experienced, knowledgeable posters with considerable expertise in various fields

    This site has existed for around ten years without the dubious input of weebecka and with only a little wisdom and wit she might have had much more successful discussion on here.  ...and, if only she listened to other posters, she might still manage that.

    Of all the nonsense she has posted that post you have quoted (and which led to autismuk taking the mickey out of my left wing credentials) really takes the biscuit!

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    Posted by: weebecka 24/12/2010 at 05:45
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    seren_dipity:
    This site has existed for around ten years without the dubious input of weebecka and with only a little wisdom and wit she might have had much more successful discussion on here.  ...and, if only she listened to other posters, she might still manage that.
     

    Yes, you're right.  Please could someone give me some links to some of the really vibrant discussions about the psychology of maths education.

    I'll happily read them and learn from them.

    Lots of you here are really paranoid.  I was only having a go at Autisuk because he's behaving like a t0zzer. I wasn't having a go at the rest of you.

    Honestly.  Fixed mindset thinking or what?

     

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    Posted by: weebecka 24/12/2010 at 07:01
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    DM:
    Someone will call the double entendre police if you carry on like that.

    Certainly none intended DM.

    I had in mind more that you, MathsMA, Seren and Curly might like to gently strum the budget string quartet round the campfire.  I shall pass the drum to Autismuk who can set the rhythmn while I jump into the flickering flames.

     

    What?

     

    OH NO

     

    She's not burning?

     

    SHE IS A WITCH!

     

     

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    Posted by: weebecka 24/12/2010 at 08:00
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     I've decided four is not enough.  Who wants the fifth ukelele?  First to claim it gets it.

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    Posted by: autismuk 24/12/2010 at 08:22
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    weebecka:
    Lots of you here are really paranoid.
     

    You really don't get it do you ?

    Tell me, at what point, if ever, do you consider it might be something to do with you ?

    weebecka:
    I was only having a go at Autisuk because he's behaving like a t0zzer.

    Hello Pot, meet Mr Kettle.

    Actually, I'm going down the "DM route" ; irritation first, then infuration, then laughing at you. I think it was the conspiracy theory and threat that tipped it over the edge (though it's been going on since everyone started facilitating on the first thread)

    You're a truly wierd person.

    So, yes, I'm not taking you awfully seriously. Largely because, as ever, you write very little to take seriously.

    weebecka:
    . I wasn't having a go at the rest of you

    So you think I'm a one man band in the pay of the Tories or something like that ? Perhaps Drowner7777 is as well, oh hang on, he can't stand Cameron. Or perhaps Jaxx99, oh hang on,he doesn't like the economic policy at all. Aldo1983, perhaps not cheerleading the Tories very well either.

    Must be just me ; you'd better report me to Kevin Brennan, hadn't you. It'll be your Christmas present to him.

    As you can tell I'm quaking in my boots at your terrifying threat.

     
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    Posted by: brookes 24/12/2010 at 08:27
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    I was always under the impression that facilitating the NCETM forums was a paid role for you Rebecca.

    "Yes, you're right.  Please could someone give me some links to some of the really vibrant discussions about the psychology of maths education."

    I'm sure all of us would admit that not every thread is of a quality we'd like it to be. I feel it's a price worth paying for having little moderation and no pre-checking of contributions. But I've always found this can be a place of genuine support, where a wealth of experience and wisdom is often and generously shared.

    I'm curious/concerned about your motives for contributing when your posting style (rightly or wrongly) stirs up so much annoyance. (You were posting last night at about 11pm and again before 6am this morning). I'm sure if you were to write a little less and read a little more your contributions would be warmly welcomed and people would be more receptive to what you have to say.

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    Posted by: autismuk 24/12/2010 at 08:32
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    weebecka:

    I've decided four is not enough.  Who wants the fifth ukelele?  First to claim it gets it.

     

    "I'm leaning on a lamppost at the corner of Opinon,
    In case a certain little becka comes by
    Oh me, oh my, I hope the facilitator comes by.
    I don't know if she'll threaten me,
    She doesn't always frighten me,
    But anyway I know that she'll try.
    Oh me, oh my, I hope that Kevin Brennan comes by."

    and autismuk's prize (kiss on the cheek) goes to the person who produces the best version of "When I'm cleaning windows" with facilitator gags. Second prize two kisses. Third prize a weekend trip to Kevin Brennan MPs constituency surgery. Fourth prize a room at the inn for the "Ehenside ; wasn't mathematics awesome" memorial week. Fifth prize a dartboard with a picture of HMI on it.

     

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    Posted by: autismuk 24/12/2010 at 08:48
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    brookes:
    I'm curious/concerned about your motives for contributing when your posting style (rightly or wrongly) stirs up so much annoyance
     

    She's giving a presentation at the ATM in Telford in 2011 about communicating in forums and promises to have lots of interesting stories to tell.

    Though this apparently is nothing to do with it.

    This is what really hacked people off. No-one minds a bunfight, but people feel used over this, I think.

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    Posted by: scentless_apprentice 24/12/2010 at 08:56
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    seren_dipity:

    curlygirly:
    am I the only person who reads this as a threat?

    a p155poor threat, but a threat all the same

     

    I was too busy snorting with laughter at being accused of being conservative (small or large 'c') or of propogating right wing dogma or supporting tory views.

    I really, genuinely think that weebecka ought to have spent some time researching this site and its posters before starting to post on here.  She'd have noticed that:

    • it doesn't need facilitating
    • discussions take place and either stick to topic or deviate
    • sometimes there is agreement and sometimes there is heated debate
    • most posters are intelligent
    • most posters are experienced and professional and know what they're talking about
    • most posters are teachers
    • some posters are right wing
    • some posters are left wing
    • some posters are extreme in their views (mostly nutters whose usernames change often)
    • there is a great deal of valuable, thoughtful and useful advice given by highly experienced, knowledgeable posters with considerable expertise in various fields

    This site has existed for around ten years without the dubious input of weebecka and with only a little wisdom and wit she might have had much more successful discussion on here.  ...and, if only she listened to other posters, she might still manage that.

    Of all the nonsense she has posted that post you have quoted (and which led to autismuk taking the mickey out of my left wing credentials) really takes the biscuit!

     

    You missed...

    • Most posters know about the educational experts she quotes, and most know that their research has very little application to our subject's teaching.

    I'm quite happy to have a long and detailed debate with weebecka about her educational theory, but it seems that a) she doesn't really have one - despite claiming to be a social constructivist she doesn't seem to know what that is - and b) she ignores the points that challenge her views and continues to layer on the waffle.

    There also seems to be a lack of understanding that disagreeing with her posts is not a 'lack of insight' - it's offering alternative insight!

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    Posted by: Betamale 24/12/2010 at 09:05
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    autismuk:

    She's giving a presentation at the ATM in Telford in 2011 about communicating in forums and promises to have lots of interesting stories to tell.

    Who else is on the bill? Harry Hill and Lee Evans

    Ok

    weebecka:

    I'm afriad I just haven't got used to all the

    'you're talking a load of sh1te' and 'I bet you haven't even got QTS status' culture yet.

    It might take a while.

    Nothing to do with whether you are qualified. You are talking garbage IN THE MAIN and refuse to deviate from that. The irony would have been if you were unqualified and passing this on as gospel to trainees.

    weebecka:

    And PMming was a nighmare too - that's so important for sorting out issues and maintaining the coherency of the flow of threads in most forums    

    You PM'd me some tripe suggesting you were an expert in yet another area of this game and you could enlighten me...(it was like the king of a African country who is thrid in line to $10m) and I posted it...I took some flack but in reality I can imagine you operate in this manner frequently which further devalues you points.

    weebecka:

    (I was DHOD ICT among other things at Bennies) yet I don't feel I have the appropriate experience to contribute to the ICT forum. 

    As in Frankie and 'Bennies'?

    Doesn't matter if you don't have a clue, just just put a range of acronyms and nouvo-cool quotes in and you won't be questionned.

    People don't dislike people having ideas. I love it. Unfortunately the majority of yours range from:

    • Pure theory
    • Unrealistic to 20-25 hour a week teachers
    • Unrealistic based on the curric in most schools
    • Incompatible with the large majority of groups/schools
    • Expressed by someone who calls herself an expert but really hasnt ever had a job for more than what looks like a term and never really been accountble for anything of worth

    Now, put this together with someone who doesn't answer questions, dodges like a politician and purely talks on subjective issues and you have a cocktail for being questionned at best, ridiculed at worst.

    Your comments about not interesting in the last 10 years? I have not been here long enough to know. One thing I will say though is that I have learned a few things over the last 6 months

    (i) How we can share great info from the likes of DM et al...and even maths_mike

    (ii) How we need to appreciate all in the profession are...well...not ........................

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