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Looking for Mathematics past papers from around 1920s onwards

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    Posted by: bombaysapphire 12/01/2011 at 18:47
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    Polecat:

    Surely someone can put a stop to this thread. I suggest the combatants be put in direct contact with one another in a boxing ring, without gloves.

    Bye

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    Posted by: curlygirly 12/01/2011 at 19:15
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    Posted by: curlygirly 12/01/2011 at 21:10
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    Wahey, we found a new game!

    ok, own up, who else has played it with their real name and that of a rival? Or is it just me?

    Maybe that's where weebecka is right now, playing googlefight. She's certainly gone very quiet.

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    Posted by: DM 12/01/2011 at 21:19
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    An obscene mismatch.

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    Just like the real thing.

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    Posted by: curlygirly 12/01/2011 at 21:26
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    It's funny because it's true.
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    Posted by: weebecka 12/01/2011 at 23:15
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    intuitionist1:
    I have often wondered, particularly in these kinds of situations, whether it might not be better to try to teach mathematics in much the same way as karate is taught in a dojo - with students segregated (even in the same large room) according to level of progression, and irrespective of age. Once a certain level has been mastered - as evidenced by the passing of a grading exam - they can progress to the next class. Furthermore, older, more advanced students can be allowed to assist the younger and/or less advanced pupils, and those who complete and have sufficiently mastered the syllabus can themselves choose to become teachers if they wish. This system would also allow students to progress at their own pace, irrespective of age.
     

    Very sensibly put Sabbir.

    The axiomatic aspects of mathematics could indeed be organised in this way, with students taking tests as and when they are ready.  If they fail they can retake them at an appropriate juncture and if they are stuggling with the test the teacher can override the testing system and deem them to have passed.  For each level they can be rated - working towards, pass or mastery.

    It could be organised in the way you have suggested although this is not always going to be practical to mix year groups, especially in a secondary school timetable - the larger number of sets make gradation with a year group more effective anyway.

    I would add, Sabbir that there are aspects of a mathematics education which are best not taught and assessed in this way.  Students' interactions with complex real life situations and their work with long, connected problems are best assessed by teachers rather than by tests.  There is no need to strictly set the students according to attainment during this aspect of their mathematics education and indeed there are many benefits of mixing students with different prior exposures as doing so greatly enriches the conversation and cross teaching which takes place.

    Assalumalaikum

     

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    Posted by: intuitionist1 13/01/2011 at 00:37
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    weebecka:

    The axiomatic aspects of mathematics could indeed be organised in this way, with students taking tests as and when they are ready.  If they fail they can retake them at an appropriate juncture and if they are struggling with the test the teacher can override the testing system and deem them to have passed.  For each level they can be rated - working towards, pass or mastery.

    Yes, that is a possibility - I admittedly haven't try to work out the logistics of such a system in any kind of detail. I would envisage that any given level, there would be a range of topics to cover (arithmetic, algebra, geometry, etc.), so that if a student is struggling with a particular topic then (s)he can always return to it later. If they need to focused one-to-one help to understand a topic, that could be provided. If the topic is not essential for further progress, then yes, a temporary waiver might be reasonable. But if it is essential, then perhaps alternative approaches should be tried to see if they are useful - or simply throw in the towel for a while and consider alternative subjects/activities until a greater level of maturity has been attained.

    weebecka:

    It could be organised in the way you have suggested although this is not always going to be practical to mix year groups, especially in a secondary school timetable - the larger number of sets make gradation with a year group more effective anyway.

     

    Yes, I agree that timetabling could be a bit of nightmare in such a scenario. An alternative might be to have individualised teaching within each class. I am reminded of English classes in my primary school in Glasgow, where there was a box of colour coded cards, each with a comprehension passage, increasing in difficulty (a bit like Oxford reading tree, or similar). I can imagine Mathematics being taught in a similar way, where part of the time is given up to a mixture of "low road" and "high road" (sic) teaching covering the basics as well as extension topics, and the remainder of the time to students progressing through these worksheets at their own pace - they should be allowed to choose whichever subtopics they want based upon the prerequisites that they have mastered - though it should be ensured that all topics at level 3 (say) have been mastered before moving on to level 4. During this time, the students will beaver away quitely like angels and the teacher(s) will provide assistance and guidance whenever a student gets stuck. Ideally the worksheets will be in the style of Durell's textbooks from the 1930s. :)

    weebecka:

    I would add, Sabbir that there are aspects of a mathematics education which are best not taught and assessed in this way.  Students' interactions with complex real life situations and their work with long, connected problems are best assessed by teachers rather than by tests.  There is no need to strictly set the students according to attainment during this aspect of their mathematics education and indeed there are many benefits of mixing students with different prior exposures as doing so greatly enriches the conversation and cross teaching which takes place.

    I see no harm in having a wide range of different problems and tasks set on the colour-coded cards - some could be quick drills, while others could be more project-like requiring significant exploration over two or more lessons (though these should not necessarily be made compulsory for all students). Anyway, this certainly seems doable - we could even make each worksheet a pdf file that children can print out from the computer which will kept out of sight in another lest that anyone mistakenly get the impression that it is some kind of teaching aid. (The advantage of this would be that the computer can keep track of which student has done what in the syllabus hierarchy). The students could even potentially do them from home.

    weebecka:

    Assalumalaikum

    Wa `alaikum as-salam(!),

    - Sabbir.

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    Posted by: curlygirly 13/01/2011 at 06:53
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    Weebecka appears to suffer from selective blindness in addition to selective memory. Apparently she can't see the posts from yesterday which correctly point out that she is the one who has had posts removed.

    Either that or she isn't big enough to admit she was wrong and retract her statements that I'm a liar and I have posts removed from the forum.

    hmmmm

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    Posted by: teselectronic 13/01/2011 at 11:28
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    Hi there, I have just completed comparing and contrasting the algebra section of a 1955 London University 'O' - level mathematics paper to the current Higher Tier GCSE paper.

    Although calculus, sets, logarithms and matrices are not included in their schemes of work, the top sets that I've been involved with over the last ten years would have no problem if the were actually taught the syllabus.

    What teachers should be congratulted with is 'engagement' of the pupils.

    To increase standards I would suggest, the questions need to be re - designed, from the concrete mode to the abstract mode, or better still, abstract questions for the last 40% of the questions.

    Hint: they need to find out the order of the solution.

    Kind Regards,HH.

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