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    Posted by: Karvol 13/01/2011 at 11:38
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     Some of you may have seen this before, but I think it is quite an interesting look at what we should be teaching...

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

     

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    Posted by: intuitionist1 13/01/2011 at 12:17
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    teselectronic:

    Although calculus, sets, logarithms and matrices are not included in their schemes of work, the top sets that I've been involved with over the last ten years would have no problem if the were actually taught the syllabus.

    Yes, I think we are generally in agreement that today's brightest students would have the potential to do the questions if they had been provided with the necessary preparation. This would still be the case even if they were taught nothing at all. The problem is that the syllabus has been so watered down over the years, that the students may as well have been taught nothing.

    teselectronic:

    What teachers should be congratulted with is 'engagement' of the pupils.

    Well, I suppose they could let their pupils watch all the episodes of "South Park" throughout the academic year. That would keep them thoroughly engaged. The pupils would not actually learn any maths, but at least the teachers would get a well-deserved pat on the back.

    An alternative suggestion might be that teachers should be congratulated if their pupils achieve their full potential - which would be made significantly easier if the exams were made more rigorous and challenging so that they actually have something worthwhile to aim for.

    Best wishes,

    Sabbir.

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    Posted by: wrldtrvlr123 13/01/2011 at 12:50
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    weebecka:

    By the way I did ask TES to remove my posts about my HMI but they said I had to report them one at a time.  When I went back to look at them - despite your claims that they were abusive - they were in fact really gentle and human, laying no blame on her for the abusive system she was part of (but suggesting that she should have gone on to contribute to the reform of that failing system).

    Umm, I generally only comment in the Math area on things I have some knowledge of (like the Monty Python bits), but didn't you say, in capital letters that she was responsible for the assaults at your past school?  That wouldn't really qualify as gentle in my book

    If I've mistaken that, I apologize. I don't really know the players involved.

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    Posted by: weebecka 13/01/2011 at 14:18
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    Karvol:

     Some of you may have seen this before, but I think it is quite an interesting look at what we should be teaching...

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U

     

    What we need to plan for is a dynamic synthesis between what's currently in place (an outcome-led curriculum) and what Ken Robinson proposes (a process-led curriculum).  Students do not need to be wildly creative all the time.  This just needs to be a valued part of what we offer them.

    The 2007/8 secondarly POSs are well written to support this kind of curriculum.

    We need to stop swinging between paradigms by using ICT to underpin a secure sysnthesis of paradigms.

    There's an article about a school that explicitly planned for this here:

    http://www.atm.org.uk/journal/archive/mt210.html

    The guy in the blue shirt (David Cain) - he was the BBC composer in residence at the same school (1972-1974) when such things were taken for granted - no need to make them explicit.  He was so inspired by his time working with students at the school that he changed career to become a maths teacher.   These were the days when every boy was given a brass instrument and forced to play in the orchestra and the school concerts ran for full weeks and you still couldn't get tickets.

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    Posted by: weebecka 13/01/2011 at 14:29
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    wrldtrvlr123:
    but didn't you say, in capital letters that she was responsible for the assaults at your past school?

    Other's quoted me as having said that wrldtrvlr123.  I only wrote positive things about her on this site myself (although I've criticised the inspection system).  I can't guarantee I've always been her biggest fan - the assualts, the death (which of course was probably just a co-incidence) and, most importantly, the students who we could have helped but who were systematically failed because of her intervention mitigate against that.  One of the characters who quoted me claims to have met me (although I've not a clue who he is), so I'm wondering if he's quoted something I've said in private?  I think others then quoted him?

    I really don't know.  I'm sure some of you noticed the way a particular post not so long ago suddenly changed.  I've had 4? maybe 5? posts deleted, which, as I've said before was almost entirely because my identity was outed and so some things I had written about my students became in appropriate.  This is not my war, this is not my doing.  I just want to be able to teach in the way which I believe is right for my students and to talk about maths education.

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    Posted by: curlygirly 13/01/2011 at 14:51
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    weebecka:
    my identity was outed

    By you.

    Quoting your linkdin address.

    Selective memory again.

    weebecka:
    This is not my war, this is not my doing. 

    So why post lies if you don't want to cause trouble.

     

    You have accused me of lying and not retracted those statements, even though others (Autism uk in particular) have proved that I have not had posts removed from this thread.

     

    You have conveniently ignored the posts which have pointed this out to you and not responded to my repeated (and polite considering I'm being called a liar) requests for you to retract the statement.

     

    you have tried to sully my reputation on TES by accusing me of "hoovering" something which I have never done, and suggesting that I need psychiatric help.

     Some of your PMs would make interesting reading and call your own mental health into question, not to mention the stuff you post on here.

     

    weebecka:
    I've had 4? maybe 5? posts deleted,

     

    Yet there are many more which have been deleted. Perhaps Gail or Bev could enlighten us as to who asked for them to be removed.

     

    I know it wasn't me. As Autismuk pointed out, none of my posts have been removed, nor the posts where I have been quoted and mentioned.

    The passive aggressive victim, " poor me I've done nothing " approach doesn't wash.

     

    Anyone reading this thread will see that I have not been unpleasant and aggressive, as some posters have. But I admit that since you accused me of being a liar, and "hoovering this thread" I have been tenacious.

     

    because I want you to retract the statement. I have not lied, I have not had threads cleaned up.

    A simple "I am sorry, Curlygirly, I appreciate that you haven't lied and you haven't had threads removed" is all it would take.

     

    But I don't expect you will, because you're just too arrogant.

    Anyone who reads this thread from start to finish can see what's going on.

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    Posted by: curlygirly 13/01/2011 at 15:01
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    weebecka:
    Other's

    HmmmConfused

    weebecka:
    I only wrote positive things about her on this site myself

    Now, I think you really are suffering from selective memory or you're just an out and out liar.

    You named an HMI and said that she knew nothing about teaching. I wouldn't say that was a positive comment.

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    Posted by: Karvol 13/01/2011 at 15:02
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    Weebecka,

     Your mathematical background is suspect and I do not wish to enter into a discussion with you. Could you kindly desist from responding to my posts.

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    Posted by: autismuk 13/01/2011 at 17:17
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    weebecka:

    wrldtrvlr123:
    but didn't you say, in capital letters that she was responsible for the assaults at your past school?

    Other's quoted me as having said that wrldtrvlr123.  I only wrote positive things about her on this site myself (although I've criticised the inspection system). 

     

    Sorry, is this for real ?

    You've forgotten becka that I have an archive of what you wrote before postings started mysteriously disappearing. (All the quotes below in italics are weebecka's words. The initials are a subsitute for the HMI's name for obvious reasons)

    I have to say you are the most laughably appalling liar I have ever met.

    Firstly the most blatant lie, "Others quoted me as having said that" (that being ; she was responsible for assaults at the school)

    Posted by weebecka on 30/12/2010 at 09:21 on the thread ""Poor Behaviour == Poor Teaching" thread has disappeared"

    "Yes I'm quite well curlygirly, despite all the assaults on staff which were a direct consequence of J J instruction to shut down the withdrawal facilities for the students who committed them."

    and as well,

    Posted by weebecka on 14/12/10 at 21:00 on the thread "A child regularly swearing at a teacher - telephone the police?"

    "The violent assaults on staff to which I refer were caused by HMI shutting down the appropriate provision for the students concerned with no alternative available, not to SLT or the unions. The unions were dealing with hundreds and hundreds of staff in Cumbria who were being brutalised by inappropriate interventions at the time. They were effective but slow due to being grossly overstretched. The executive head who was brought in (small part time) was grossly misinformed as to the issues in the school (by HMI). It took her a while to get her bearings but the solutions which was finally reached (whereby I continued to teach all classes but one) was what I wanted, it worked well and I am very grateful to all involved who made it possible. HMI WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ASSAULTS. What should happen - should the staff be failed or should the students get criminal records? "

    Finally, the second and less directly blatant (marginally) lie, here are some of Weebecka's positive comments about the HMI in question.

    "Most disturbingly our most ignorant and damaging inspector was  J "

    "She (JJ) clearly had absolutely no idea what I was doing or dealing with and didn't bother to ask. The reputation of Ofsted would be greatly improved if we could name and shame bad inspectors"

    "I have seen many other seriously able teachers' health and careers destroyed by judgements during external inspections. J HMI (chief inspector for maths) is the inspector to whom we are both referring"

    This post also contains my favourite ever weebecka quote:

    "I have never had bad feedback, just some bizarrely questionable feedback which has made it apparant that the inspector has had no insight into what was going on in my classroom."

    "J had no relevant experience or insights into schools like ours (unlike some of the other inspectors and we saw a lot, but  J was our HMI).  The direct conesquences of her intervetions where truly horrific and made is much harder for us to deliver the results which brought us out of special measures.There would be no issue for me if she showed any insight into the modifications required to Ofsted's remit which would prevent such horror stories in the future."

    "Most disturbingly our most ignorant and damaging inspector was  J - who is the chief HMI for maths! (I was head of maths). She clearly had absolutely no idea what I was doing or dealing with and didn't bother to ask."

    "I don't dislike  J.  But she's got herself into a system which has made her behave in ways which are seriously destructive to schools.  And if she can't fix the system she should leave and go back to teaching."

    "I am not an never have had any interest in a witch hunt against  J and it's difficult to talk about these issue without seeming like I am."

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    Posted by: autismuk 13/01/2011 at 17:18
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    curlygirly:
    You named an HMI and said that she knew nothing about teaching. I wouldn't say that was a positive comment.
     

    Oh heck no, CurlyGirly, she was much ruder than that !

     

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