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    Posted by: autismuk 05/02/2011 at 12:51
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    curlygirly:
    It wouldn't make any difference if you started to archive stuff yourself weebecka, you've lied blatantly when the evidence is there for all to see. Why would having an archive of all your lies make any difference to you. I suppose you might be able to keep track of what you'd said. I guess if you lie a lot that'd be helpful. Wouldn't know myself.
     

    Even if weebecka could get this working (it requires Linux or Unix and Python, or Cygwin for wget.exe) all it does is download what was posted.

    It would be no help to her. It is technically possible to remove posts or add new ones in, but it is horribly complicated to do so, easy to detect, and technically beyond someone who doesn't know what an RSS feed is.

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    Posted by: autismuk 05/02/2011 at 12:59
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    weebecka:
    Great curlygirly but where?  Soon after DM quoted me as having named this inspector I searched and searched and couldn't find the post to which it was supposed to refer.  I hadn't had anything like that deleted and all the old threads were still standing at that stage.  I did once refer to her by name after others had but not in an abusive way - quite the opposite.
     

    You either had the posts deleted or the admins deleted them for you. 

    I'm quite happy to believe that the admins delete them - if I were them I wouldn't let them stand.

    What is farcical is your delusion that you never wrote them, you also wrote previously that your comments were 'gentle' and 'human' incidentally.

    In fact if you search for the name in question, there is still the remnants of one of your posts which is quoted (be interesting to see how long this lasts).

    You are quoted as saying :

    "From the second she walked in to Eheside, all the staff knew that Jane Jones had no relevant experience or insights into schools like ours (unlike some of the other inspectors and we saw a lot, but Jane Jones was our HMI).  The direct conesquences of her intervetions where truly horrific and made is much harder for us to deliver the results which brought us out of special measures."

    I presume your shift to 'I did once refer to her by name' is an attempt to get round the minor problem that if you didn't refer to her by name, then DM, or I, or both, are Psychic.

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    Posted by: autismuk 05/02/2011 at 13:12
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    For reference: (originally posted on the past papers thread):

    Sorry, is this for real ?

    You've forgotten becka that I have an archive of what you wrote before postings started mysteriously disappearing. (All the quotes below in italics are weebecka's words. The initials are a subsitute for the HMI's name for obvious reasons)

    I have to say you are the most laughably appalling liar I have ever met.

    Firstly the most blatant lie, "Others quoted me as having said that" (that being ; she was responsible for assaults at the school)

    Posted by weebecka on 30/12/2010 at 09:21 on the thread ""Poor Behaviour == Poor Teaching" thread has disappeared"

    "Yes I'm quite well curlygirly, despite all the assaults on staff which were a direct consequence of J J instruction to shut down the withdrawal facilities for the students who committed them."

    and as well,

    Posted by weebecka on 14/12/10 at 21:00 on the thread "A child regularly swearing at a teacher - telephone the police?"

    "The violent assaults on staff to which I refer were caused by HMI shutting down the appropriate provision for the students concerned with no alternative available, not to SLT or the unions. The unions were dealing with hundreds and hundreds of staff in Cumbria who were being brutalised by inappropriate interventions at the time. They were effective but slow due to being grossly overstretched. The executive head who was brought in (small part time) was grossly misinformed as to the issues in the school (by HMI). It took her a while to get her bearings but the solutions which was finally reached (whereby I continued to teach all classes but one) was what I wanted, it worked well and I am very grateful to all involved who made it possible. HMI WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ASSAULTS. What should happen - should the staff be failed or should the students get criminal records? "

    Finally, the second and less directly blatant (marginally) lie, here are some of Weebecka's positive comments about the HMI in question.

    "Most disturbingly our most ignorant and damaging inspector was  J "

    "She (JJ) clearly had absolutely no idea what I was doing or dealing with and didn't bother to ask. The reputation of Ofsted would be greatly improved if we could name and shame bad inspectors"

    "I have seen many other seriously able teachers' health and careers destroyed by judgements during external inspections. J HMI (chief inspector for maths) is the inspector to whom we are both referring"

    This post also contains my favourite ever weebecka quote:

    "I have never had bad feedback, just some bizarrely questionable feedback which has made it apparant that the inspector has had no insight into what was going on in my classroom."

    "J had no relevant experience or insights into schools like ours (unlike some of the other inspectors and we saw a lot, but  J was our HMI).  The direct conesquences of her intervetions where truly horrific and made is much harder for us to deliver the results which brought us out of special measures.There would be no issue for me if she showed any insight into the modifications required to Ofsted's remit which would prevent such horror stories in the future."

    "Most disturbingly our most ignorant and damaging inspector was  J - who is the chief HMI for maths! (I was head of maths). She clearly had absolutely no idea what I was doing or dealing with and didn't bother to ask."

    "I don't dislike  J.  But she's got herself into a system which has made her behave in ways which are seriously destructive to schools.  And if she can't fix the system she should leave and go back to teaching."

    "I am not an never have had any interest in a witch hunt against  J and it's difficult to talk about these issue without seeming like I am."

     

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    Posted by: DM 05/02/2011 at 13:16
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    I'm still waiting for weebecka to apologise for accusing me of naming the HMI she regularly libels.   Maybe these snippets will prompt her memory.

    weebecka:
    despite all the assaults on staff which were a direct consequence of XXXX XXXXX's instruction to shut down the withdrawal facilities for the students who committed them.

    weebecka:
    From the second she walked in to Eheside, all the staff knew that XXXX XXXXX had no relevant experience or insights into schools like ours (unlike some of the other inspectors and we saw a lot, but XXXX XXXXX was our HMI).  The direct conesquences of her intervetions where truly horrific and made is much harder for us to deliver the results which brought us out of special measures.
     

    weebecka:
     I don't dislike XXXX XXXXX.  But she's got herself into a system which has made her behave in ways which are seriously destructive to schools.  And if she can't fix the system she should leave and go back to teaching.

    weebecka:
    Most disturbingly our most ignorant and damaging inspector was XXXX XXXXX - who is the XXXXX XXX for maths!"

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    Posted by: curlygirly 05/02/2011 at 13:17
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    Yup that's what I remember her saying.
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    Posted by: curlygirly 05/02/2011 at 13:19
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    You'll be waiting a long time DM. Weebecka never apologises after she's told blatant lies about other posters.
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    Posted by: Betamale 05/02/2011 at 13:29
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    weebecka:

    Bombay Sapphire and betamale - do make sure that you robustly provide the evidence to back up your claims.  It would look a little unprofessional were you just to write disparaging letters which are apparently unfounded.  

    I shall be interested to see the evidence to which you will refer appear.  It's quite astonishing what can be done with this forum.

    You are making the assumption I value that. I don't openly represent any school, HE/FE establishment or mathematical organisation. I am a just  40 something kicking around being a classroom plod nor would I link myself to any body. I have my views, I express them as an independent person rather than one who links themselves with those you have (which seem to change as soon as somebody remembers you as the cleaner/work experience kid rather than a freelance maths guru)

    Moving on....any  organisation who had one ounce of sense would distance themselves from you in a professional capacity and it would not take long for them to make a judgement or your contribution here. Of 1500 posts, probably 1/5 are just tripe about education (which you have never really been successful in) the rest are a mix of coded sh***t and insults. Insults are fine but to openly represent some 'well known' establishments and do that...well...you decide...

    I will credit you 3-4 very good posts. so ~1/500............................

    DM:

    Several TESsers are boycotting the ATM Conference valed.   I still think it would be wise for them to engage the services of a top-notch security team for that particular session or it is likely to descend into chaos.

    I would like to go. I am just waiting to hear back from Pampers and/or Huggies to see if they will sponsor me to go and sit through the show.
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    Posted by: weebecka 05/02/2011 at 13:33
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    Once again, here in this thread we have others naming the inspector who I have not named.  How many times has this happened?

    Early on when you did this I did refer to her by name in my further comments, which you have quoted here.  Individuals in this thread then extracted my comments from their context and reposted them and referred to them in this decontextualised way many times.

    I wonder why you are all so obsessed with my need to apologise to this inspector (which I am happy to do ) and yet you seem absolutely comfortable with the fact that she insisted that the withdrawal facilities for students in my school be shut down despite the obivous reality that to do so would lead to serious assaults as it then did. 

    I feel the commentary is unbalanced here and this is making me more reluctant than usual in my self criticism.

    It is clearly possible that I have misremembered aspect of what has happened as I have really struggled to cope with the constantly vanishing posts, the disppearing threads, the changing posts and the constant abuse and threats.   I have no hestitation in apologising for any mistakes I have made, whatever those may be.  

    Interestingly I don't see the text DM quoted me as having said (which you then quoted him as having said about me) in your list Autismuk.  By the way - if you are not an administrator - your taking this material offline and republishing it is surely illegal isn't it?  Not that that bothers me particularly.  Personally I'd prefer you just republish the whole lot.

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    Posted by: curlygirly 05/02/2011 at 13:38
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    You've clearly " misremembered" several threats you've made to other posters ( myself included) I presume you are asserting that DM and Autism uk are both psychic since they knew the name of an HMI whom you claim you didn't name! They could have no way of knowing as the school you were referring to where she was your HMI is now closed ( doesn't surprise me if you're a measure of the calibre of the staff). You really should make more effort with your lies. It's really quite pathetic!
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    Posted by: weebecka 05/02/2011 at 13:47
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    curlygirly:
    I presume you are asserting that DM and Autism uk are both psychic since they knew the name of an HMI whom you claim you didn't name! They could have no way of knowing as the school you were referring to where she was your HMI is now closed ( doesn't surprise me if you're a measure of the calibre of the staff). You really should make more effort with your lies. It's really quite pathetic!
     

    No.  Autismuk got if from DM.  I think DM got it from somewhere other than this forum.  The reason I think that is because he quoted me as using it and I searched for the thing he quoted me as having said on this forum and it wasn't there.

    This I know is true.  But it's also that with the way this forum behaves it's impossible to be sure what's happened.  That's why I'm trying to describe in detail what happened so that others can offer any alternative explanations they may have.

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