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airy:

Nobody is agitating or distorting what you said

Are you suggesting that noboday was agitating or distorting Airy?  Really?

airy:

I saw that your attempts at facilitation were second rate

Absolutely.  I agree.  Actually I wasn't trying to facilitate at all I was just trying to survive, as is normal when you're getting the hang of a challenging new forum.

airy:

the classroom management advice you doled out on the back of your experience in transforming a maths department was based on some rather flawed principles

All I did, airy, was to try to answer the questions.  I repeatedly emphasised that I was in no way claiming to be a behaviour expert or trying to advise others.  I was just talking about how I sorted out nightmare classes.  What I was saying was always always lost by blast of posts after it making ludicrous and distorting comments.  It was also a big problem that i was moderated, so a lot of the explanations I did give were lost as they appeared on pages people had alread read.

I'm not saying I didn't make mistakes - of course I did and I would like to apologies for offence caused.  But I am very clearly suggesting that you guys that you need to be more considerate of the problems new posters have which you don't seem to understand or allow for. 

airy:

the truth is....you were here to save TES

???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now that's one I haven't heard yet.  Doubtless there will be plenty more.

seren_dipity:

You've also failed to notice that this is a highly effective community and, having had it pointed out to you, have failed to acknowledge your mistake ...

This is a very highly effectively community for quick transactional questions.  I've said this many times and have certainly never contradicted this as it obviously true.

I have on many occasions question how good it is at dealing with deeper issues.  There is clearly a tendancy here for people to repeatedly post dogmatic views at each other without exploring the specific experiences which give validity to each view point and the deeper communilities and differences between them.

However I've said it before and I'll say it again - what I want you do do is to prove me wrong - to post me links to the conversations which contradict my assumptions.   I'm sure you've noticed I'm also trying to create such conversations myself now I've settled in so am doing my best to prove myself wrong.  Surely you can help me do that! 

And even if we can't and my prior assumptions are correct, TES remains in my view, of course, a highly effective community.  

weebecka:

This is a very highly effectively community for quick transactional questions.  I've said this many times and have certainly never contradicted this as it obviously true.

I have on many occasions question how good it is at dealing with deeper issues.  There is clearly a tendancy here for people to repeatedly post dogmatic views at each other without exploring the specific experiences which give validity to each view point and the deeper communilities and differences between them.

However I've said it before and I'll say it again - what I want you do do is to prove me wrong - to post me links to the conversations which contradict my assumptions.   I'm sure you've noticed I'm also trying to create such conversations myself now I've settled in so am doing my best to prove myself wrong.  Surely you can help me do that! 

And even if we can't and my prior assumptions are correct, TES remains in my view, of course, a highly effective community.

You obviously won't be able to get tone of voice in my post - it's meant to be a genuine question, I'm puzzled that's all. 

weebecka:

There are very few people I've annoyed in the maths teaching community, but the people who wrote the Excellence in Maths Leadership Materials for the NCETM.

I think you underestimate how many mathematics teachers you have upset on here weebs.  

What was wrong with these EiML materials in the first place?   Even if they weren't very good, I can imagine if you pointed out their shortcomings with your usual tact, that might not have been well received.

Please stop saying I have advised you badly.   The only advice I have ever given to you is to stop being so confrontational and bigheaded and be careful about revealing your identity.   You completely ignored every aspect of my "advice" so if you haven't enjoyed the consequences, it is your own fault.

seren_dipity:

I do hope you correct your statement elsewhere about TES's lack of community.

I'd just like her to apologise, sincerely, for her behaviour since she joined TES.   If she did so, I, for one, would be happy to draw a line under this whole sorry episode.