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    Posted by: MathsMA 29/12/2010 at 12:24
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    weebecka:
    But I am very clearly suggesting that you guys that you need to be more considerate of the problems new posters have which you don't seem to understand or allow for. 

    The overwhelming majority of "new" posters (for we were all "new" once) would appear not to have had the same experience on this forum as you have had. Therefore I would suggest the issue is with yourself and not with this forum!

    If any "new" person wandered in to the pub/staff room/conference in the same arrogant, patronising, condescending and antagonistic manner that you arrived with, then I would probably expect them to either be ignored, countered or given a fairly rough ride.

    Your communication skills are appalling, your offers of insight are fairly limited and have been somewhat taken apart, and your lack of self awareness is shocking.

    I have found the Mathematics Forum and the overwhelming majority of its posters to be a welcoming, informative and supportive bunch who are more than willing to give up some of their time and insight to help others (as well as engage in deeper discussions on subjects).

    The reaction you have engendered on this forum is solely down to the manner with which you approached it.

    If the idea was to generare a "buzz" for you to take back to this presentation, then job done. However, if that was not the intention then I would suggest you need to do a serious amount of soul searching and brush up on your communication skills and self awareness before you dip your toe in again.

    For someone who is to be presenting a session on discussion forums I would suggest that your mannerisms, posts and actions on here makes you one of the least suitable speakers out there.

     

     

     

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    Posted by: jabed 29/12/2010 at 12:52
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    MathsMA:

    I have found the Mathematics Forum and the overwhelming majority of its posters to be a welcoming, informative and supportive bunch who are more than willing to give up some of their time and insight to help others (as well as engage in deeper discussions on subjects).

    The subject forums here have been very useful. They have been one of the most positive factors  of the TES community.

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    Posted by: Middlemarch 29/12/2010 at 13:06
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     In addition to conversations by PM on TES, I've lost count of the number of posters who've emailed me for further advice or discussion of their issues.  I know for a fact that this applies to a large number of other posters on here.

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    Posted by: poemeelectronique 29/12/2010 at 13:20
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    Middlemarch:
    I know for a fact that this applies to a large number of other posters on here.
    Even I've made some friends for life via TES (albeit in a roundabout way) and some people have been wonderfully supportive recently, not necessarily posters you'd expect to be so either.  

    The thing with TES is that if there are bits that you don't like or are beyond you then you stay away don't you?  I read Opinion but rarely post on it for various reasons, for instance.

    I wish Weebecka would answer my earlier points though - I'd have thought that it was good forum etiquette to do so (but what the heck do I know!) and I did ask ever so politelySmile

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    Posted by: seren_dipity 29/12/2010 at 13:27
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     poeme - any update?  I keep checking your thread.

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    Posted by: autismuk 29/12/2010 at 14:18
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    weebecka:
    INKY when I came onto TES I forgot to mention I was doing this (ATM) conference
     

    Conveniently.

    weebecka:
    My opinion of TES was that it was a great place to come for fast simple answers but not such a great place for deep discussions (deep stuff eh?) because people are anonymous and identity matters in deep online discussions. 

    Utter rubbish. There are quite complex discussions that take place on TES. There are also one shot answers.

    Some people guard their real identity very carefully, some aren't bothered. 

    IME identity only matters when revealing it could be personally problematic - for example people sometimes ask for help with issues around employment law or about dealing with a specific situation.

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    Posted by: autismuk 29/12/2010 at 14:22
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    weebecka:

    DM and has been systematically agitating things, distorting what I said and advising me badly and I'm interested to see why.

     

    And you keep calling people "paranoid" ?

    weebecka:
    There are very few people I've annoyed in the maths teaching community, but the people who wrote the Excellence in Maths Leadership Materials for the NCETM.  (EiML) are an obvious exception and there seem to have been issues emanating from there since I pointed out that the materials were inadequate and needed to be rewritten (which they were and they were).

    I think you've forgotten here that you're a complete nobody.

    People are fed up with you because you are amazingly patronising.

    Sadly most of the best examples of this are on the vanished thread.  When talking about mathematics it is difficult to judge your level of expertise and experience, but when talking about behaviour it is comically obvious you know the square root of sweet FA.

     

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    Posted by: autismuk 29/12/2010 at 14:25
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    weebecka:

    This is a very highly effectively community for quick transactional questions.  I've said this many times and have certainly never contradicted this as it obviously true.

    I have on many occasions question how good it is at dealing with deeper issues.  There is clearly a tendancy here for people to repeatedly post dogmatic views at each other without exploring the specific experiences which give validity to each view point and the deeper communilities and differences between them.

     

    You're projecting again becka.

     

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    Posted by: airy 29/12/2010 at 14:38
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    airy:
    I saw that your attempts at facilitation were second rate

    Absolutely.  I agree.  Actually I wasn't trying to facilitate at all

    Either you lied before or you are lying now.
    weebecka:
    I was just talking about how I sorted out nightmare classes. 
    Except that you didn't - you said you had done so but until pressed you never said how. By that point it was an anticlimax when you said that you used such revolutionary strategies of phoning home and sending kids out of class.
    weebecka:
    But I am very clearly suggesting that you guys that you need to be more considerate of the problems new posters have which you don't seem to understand or allow for. 
    I take posters as they come. You don't get a free pass for idiocy just because you're new.
    weebecka:
    Doubtless there will be plenty more.
    TBH, you are the one who is increasingly making this personal. My problem isn't with you but with the advice you posted and the style of your responses when challenged. It's not productive when criticised to suddenly deny what you were doing. It's a tactic you have used several times and it's not doing you any favours.
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    Posted by: poemeelectronique 29/12/2010 at 14:56
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    seren_dipity:

     poeme - any update?  I keep checking your thread.

    Yes, I've just updated the thread Smile
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